| Mar 16 16:01:49 Jinx |
oke guys time to kick the meeting off |
| Mar 16 16:02:25 Jinx |
first of all some basic rules to keep us from creating mayhem and chaos |
| Mar 16 16:02:44 Jinx |
we will try to answer your questions and talk about ongoing development |
| Mar 16 16:03:06 Jinx |
we ask u, patiently wait until the question has been answered before posting a new one |
| Mar 16 16:03:39 Jinx |
we are not going to moderate the channel :) |
| Mar 16 16:03:41 <-- |
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| Mar 16 16:03:55 Jinx |
first of all, let's do a small introduction |
| Mar 16 16:04:03 Jinx |
so u all know who is who |
| Mar 16 16:04:11 Jinx |
core guys can go first |
| Mar 16 16:04:34 Jinx |
anyone wanna kick of ? |
| Mar 16 16:04:41 rhuk |
goahead jinx |
| Mar 16 16:04:50 Jinx |
oke |
| Mar 16 16:04:55 rhuk |
Jinx, louis, david, me , pred |
| Mar 16 16:04:59 davidgal |
davidgal = David, I'm taking care of language, localisation, utf-8 issues and the like |
| Mar 16 16:05:14 davidgal |
I also coordinate the translation workgroup |
| Mar 16 16:05:52 Jinx |
Jinx = Johan, lead developer, trying to get the devs on track, so if we mess-up u can come after me |
| Mar 16 16:07:04 Jinx |
rhuk ? |
| Mar 16 16:07:05 rhuk |
rhuk = Andy Miller - general UI/web developer - templates and design issues, joomla.org sites design and maintenance, Design & Accessibility Working Group lead |
| Mar 16 16:07:14 webImagery |
webImagery = Louis, developer, i've been working pretty exclusively on the trunk in preparation for our next version |
| Mar 16 16:07:38 rhuk |
marko? |
| Mar 16 16:07:39 Predator |
Predator = Standards & Guidelines i'm taking care about the help docs for 3PD's |
| Mar 16 16:07:59 Predator |
and a loggist for 3PD's :D |
| Mar 16 16:08:10 Predator |
lobby |
| Mar 16 16:08:20 Jinx |
oke great, that's us, now curious to see who else is in here, feel free to write a one-liner about yourself |
| Mar 16 16:08:43 AmyStephen |
AmyStephen - just listening! |
| Mar 16 16:08:51 michiel1981 |
michiel1981 = michiel, lead developer of Gallery 2 bridge and co-developer of JoomlaLib and Jsecure. |
| Mar 16 16:09:11 robin_ |
robin_ - just listening 2 ! |
| Mar 16 16:09:15 [1]Laurens |
Laurens = community member and currently working on the JAVA XML-RPC application (J!Explorer) |
| Mar 16 16:09:36 Hackwar |
Hackwar = Hannes Papenberg, working on the access managment in Joomla together with the devs. |
| Mar 16 16:10:28 Jinx |
any one else ? |
| Mar 16 16:10:37 Beatb |
Beatb = Beat, S&G Group, co-dev of Community Builder :), and now (scoop) also taken over MamboArt/JoomlaArt components with Andreas. ;) |
| Mar 16 16:10:48 LorenzoG |
LorenzoG - belong to the mod team - here for listening |
| Mar 16 16:11:22 rhuk |
1 more min and we'll begin eh? |
| Mar 16 16:12:05 Jinx |
yeah |
| Mar 16 16:12:24 flg |
flg = simeon, CB betatester, working w/ joomla (and on it since mambo 4.5), idling here and answering lot of questions |
| Mar 16 16:13:24 * |
vibez-lap just a big joomla fan looking forward to see what the future holds |
| Mar 16 16:13:45 halk |
= Halil - CustomQuickIcons and powering Sivasspor.com - 16k users |
| Mar 16 16:14:03 flg |
16k? nice ... that works fine out the box? :) |
| Mar 16 16:14:22 * |
TCHQ0wn4g3 is also a faithful fan of mambo/joomla looking forward to a brighter, easier future. |
| Mar 16 16:14:52 halk |
yeah. only problems during soccer matches |
| Mar 16 16:15:13 flg |
heh ok thanks for answer. i will stay back with them offtopics ;) |
| Mar 16 16:15:32 Jinx |
anyone else ? |
| Mar 16 16:15:33 Hackwar |
flg: thats not offtopic |
| Mar 16 16:15:48 Hackwar |
I think you should just start |
| Mar 16 16:15:52 flg |
ok |
| Mar 16 16:16:23 Beatb |
So Johan, get your glassball and tell us the bright future :D |
| Mar 16 16:17:20 * |
Jinx looking for that damn glassball, would be nice of they would cleanup from time to time, developers all the same |
| Mar 16 16:17:35 Beatb |
LOL |
| Mar 16 16:17:38 Jinx |
oke question time ! |
| Mar 16 16:17:41 Hackwar |
little fortuneteller |
| Mar 16 16:17:47 Jinx |
fire away, one at a time please ;) |
| Mar 16 16:18:22 * |
junkie wonders who is brave enough to ask when will 1.1 be finished |
| Mar 16 16:18:40 Hackwar |
Could you explain something on the JRegistry thing? How does it work? You once said there were things with XML-files, are they used to store values or what? |
| Mar 16 16:18:46 halk |
hehe |
| Mar 16 16:19:00 Jinx |
oke |
| Mar 16 16:19:01 rhuk |
jregistry question first |
| Mar 16 16:19:13 Jinx |
that's something Louis can do |
| Mar 16 16:19:20 webImagery |
lol |
| Mar 16 16:19:24 webImagery |
thanks for volunteering me |
| Mar 16 16:19:25 webImagery |
:) |
| Mar 16 16:19:29 * |
Hackwar thought to just start the conversation |
| Mar 16 16:19:31 webImagery |
ok |
| Mar 16 16:20:02 webImagery |
If any of you are familiar with the windows registry... you will understand that it is a tree-like key/value store |
| Mar 16 16:20:12 webImagery |
kde has something similar i believe |
| Mar 16 16:20:14 webImagery |
the idea is |
| Mar 16 16:20:21 webImagery |
you store key/value pairs |
| Mar 16 16:20:23 webImagery |
keys are paths |
| Mar 16 16:20:31 webImagery |
this is what JRegistry provides |
| Mar 16 16:20:41 webImagery |
so |
| Mar 16 16:21:06 webImagery |
$registry->setVal( 'the.path.to.your.key', 1 ); |
| Mar 16 16:21:13 Hackwar |
something like folder1.folder2.key->value? |
| Mar 16 16:21:28 Hackwar |
key being an object in an XML? |
| Mar 16 16:21:33 webImagery |
puts the value 1 at the->path->to->your->key |
| Mar 16 16:21:38 webImagery |
forget xml |
| Mar 16 16:21:41 Hackwar |
ok |
| Mar 16 16:21:46 webImagery |
think of it as a key/value store |
| Mar 16 16:21:58 webImagery |
it supports namespaces |
| Mar 16 16:22:04 webImagery |
which is the first part of the path |
| Mar 16 16:22:06 intel_in |
cool. Web |
| Mar 16 16:22:11 webImagery |
in this example 'the' is the namespace |
| Mar 16 16:22:39 webImagery |
where you will all find this most useful is in our new session support |
| Mar 16 16:22:43 webImagery |
think of it like this |
| Mar 16 16:23:00 Beatb |
any defined namespaces / syntax to avoid collisions ? |
| Mar 16 16:23:03 webImagery |
you want to persist some values across a user's page loads in the sesion |
| Mar 16 16:23:17 webImagery |
we have a JRegistry object we store in the session |
| Mar 16 16:23:25 webImagery |
JApplication offers some methods to interact with that |
| Mar 16 16:23:32 webImagery |
well |
| Mar 16 16:23:39 webImagery |
we will have conventions Beatb |
| Mar 16 16:23:52 webImagery |
but that is all |
| Mar 16 16:24:07 webImagery |
the global configs |
| Mar 16 16:24:12 webImagery |
are stored in a JRegistry object |
| Mar 16 16:24:19 webImagery |
so Hackwar |
| Mar 16 16:24:23 webImagery |
to answer your question on XML |
| Mar 16 16:24:34 webImagery |
we have made JRegistry able to export to different formats |
| Mar 16 16:24:37 webImagery |
one is xml |
| Mar 16 16:24:40 webImagery |
one is ini |
| Mar 16 16:24:43 webImagery |
and one is php class files |
| Mar 16 16:24:50 webImagery |
you can extend this for whatever format you need |
| Mar 16 16:25:00 webImagery |
there are obviously limitations |
| Mar 16 16:25:01 Hackwar |
ah, okay, now thats clear. |
| Mar 16 16:25:06 Jinx |
oke i think that is enough :) |
| Mar 16 16:25:15 webImagery |
ok |
| Mar 16 16:25:19 Jinx |
next ? |
| Mar 16 16:25:22 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
In my experience with the TinyMCE content editor, I have wondered if you guys will improve upon or replace the TinyMCE editor with one that is more standards compliant. TinyMCE has this problem of placing code everywhere I don’t want it to. |
| Mar 16 16:25:36 Jinx |
i'll take that |
| Mar 16 16:26:19 Jinx |
in fact we are adressing this problem in the next release, we are not replacing TinyMCE but are adding support for XStandard 1.7 |
| Mar 16 16:26:48 Jinx |
in the past moths we have worked with the people from XStandard and they have created a special lite version of the upcoming 1.7 release |
| Mar 16 16:27:20 Jinx |
this special version for partnering CMS system will have some professional features enabled |
| Mar 16 16:27:58 Jinx |
it allows us to present a completely xhtml valid editor, that support all the basic editor features in joomla |
| Mar 16 16:28:11 flg |
partnering CMS system? |
| Mar 16 16:28:13 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
I only ask because I use thw WYSIWYG editor all the time but I end up having to go into the HTML only view anyways to clean up after the darn thing. |
| Mar 16 16:28:29 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
Seems pointless right now to me |
| Mar 16 16:28:44 Hackwar |
Why not JCE? Seems to be the most popular... |
| Mar 16 16:28:51 Jinx |
*flg : XStandard created a partner program |
| Mar 16 16:28:59 JoomlaRadio |
Hello together |
| Mar 16 16:29:00 dtaib |
any url jinx? |
| Mar 16 16:29:04 flg |
thats a cms too.. nm |
| Mar 16 16:29:13 rhuk |
xstandard produces the best xhtml valid code.. bar none |
| Mar 16 16:29:34 Jinx |
and we are the first cms they will provide a special free version for |
| Mar 16 16:29:51 flg |
gr8 |
| Mar 16 16:29:53 Jinx |
i don't have any url as this info isn't official yet, so u guys get the scoop |
| Mar 16 16:29:53 Beatb |
nice! :) |
| Mar 16 16:30:02 dtaib |
cool :) |
| Mar 16 16:30:03 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
thanks I look forward to cleaner code with less cleanup |
| Mar 16 16:30:18 Jinx |
we are awaiting the release of the 1.7 beta version in order to make the info public |
| Mar 16 16:30:20 michiel1981 |
nice |
| Mar 16 16:30:37 rhuk |
wanna give any info on the features jinx? |
| Mar 16 16:30:37 LorenzoG |
we promise not to say anything ;-) |
| Mar 16 16:30:43 Jinx |
we have already tested it internaly with the testing WG and it is looking very good |
| Mar 16 16:30:47 Jinx |
sure |
| Mar 16 16:30:53 Jinx |
i'll get the list |
| Mar 16 16:31:26 Jinx |
# The ability to browse, preview and insert images into the editor from an image library. |
| Mar 16 16:31:26 Jinx |
# The ability to browse and insert hyperlinks from an attachment/link library. |
| Mar 16 16:31:26 Jinx |
# The ability to browse and insert markup snippets from a library (called "Directory"). |
| Mar 16 16:31:26 Jinx |
# The ability to retain structural markup when content is copied and pasted from applications like Microsoft Word. |
| Mar 16 16:31:26 Jinx |
# The ability to disable the time stamp in View Source. |
| Mar 16 16:31:28 Jinx |
# The ability to re-size images client-side by dragging. |
| Mar 16 16:31:30 Jinx |
# The ability to re-size table width by dragging. |
| Mar 16 16:31:32 Jinx |
# Customization of the message below XStandard to read "XStandard Lite for [your CMS name]" instead of the current message which reads: "XStandard Lite freeware version. Pro version available at http://xstandard.com". |
| Mar 16 16:31:35 Jinx |
there you go |
| Mar 16 16:31:59 dtaib |
any idea how much for pro |
| Mar 16 16:32:06 dtaib |
and when ETA? |
| Mar 16 16:32:19 Jinx |
this will be available with 1.1 |
| Mar 16 16:32:25 vibez-lap |
resize images by dragging sounds cool |
| Mar 16 16:32:32 dtaib |
yes |
| Mar 16 16:32:47 hamako |
ajax? |
| Mar 16 16:32:57 Jinx |
u need to check the website for prices on the pro version |
| Mar 16 16:33:11 Jinx |
but the idea is that u don't need to pro version |
| Mar 16 16:33:24 dtaib |
Yeah why would one go for pro then |
| Mar 16 16:33:32 Jinx |
we explicitly worked out an arrangement where all the features u need are in the special lite version |
| Mar 16 16:33:38 dtaib |
just to remove the customization message? |
| Mar 16 16:33:44 Jinx |
lol no |
| Mar 16 16:33:58 dtaib |
hehe |
| Mar 16 16:34:10 vibez-lap |
its only $17. thats a bargain in my books |
| Mar 16 16:34:23 Jinx |
oke next question |
| Mar 16 16:34:33 Hackwar |
How about GPL? Will we be allowed to extend this editor in later versions of Joomla? |
| Mar 16 16:35:08 Jinx |
u can really extend the editor, it's not a javascript editor |
| Mar 16 16:35:35 Jinx |
u can create extra functionality for it using the soap api's it supports |
| Mar 16 16:35:45 flg |
sweet |
| Mar 16 16:35:48 michiel1981 |
Could the core team elaborate some more on the plugin system as to replacing mambots, searchbots? |
| Mar 16 16:36:12 Jinx |
for example, u could allow a user to insert links or other info from your component using the directory feature |
| Mar 16 16:36:26 rhuk |
someone wanna take 'plugins' |
| Mar 16 16:36:28 rhuk |
??? |
| Mar 16 16:36:50 michiel1981 |
nevermind, found the new documentation? |
| Mar 16 16:37:00 michiel1981 |
has been updated weett |
| Mar 16 16:37:05 webImagery |
sorry guys |
| Mar 16 16:37:11 webImagery |
was out of the room for a minute |
| Mar 16 16:37:15 webImagery |
Plugins: |
| Mar 16 16:37:21 d3vlabs |
oy |
| Mar 16 16:37:24 webImagery |
they are renamed from mambots |
| Mar 16 16:37:29 webImagery |
added to that |
| Mar 16 16:37:40 webImagery |
is the ability to have class based plugins |
| Mar 16 16:37:57 webImagery |
these implement the observer pattern |
| Mar 16 16:38:25 webImagery |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_pattern |
| Mar 16 16:38:26 webImagery |
:) |
| Mar 16 16:38:28 rhuk |
d3vlabs - msgs |
| Mar 16 16:38:56 webImagery |
don't want to get too long winded on it |
| Mar 16 16:38:59 webImagery |
specific questions? |
| Mar 16 16:39:08 flg |
backward compatible? |
| Mar 16 16:39:15 webImagery |
fully |
| Mar 16 16:39:20 flg |
gr8 |
| Mar 16 16:39:38 Beatb |
Any plans to implement an "update" mechanism in addition of install/uninstall for components/modules/plugins ? |
| Mar 16 16:39:49 d3vlabs |
sup rhuk,flg,webImagery,michiel1981.etcetc |
| Mar 16 16:39:56 flg |
sup |
| Mar 16 16:40:05 Vimes539 |
Yo |
| Mar 16 16:40:14 rhuk |
who wants to take the update q? |
| Mar 16 16:40:27 Jinx |
i'll do |
| Mar 16 16:40:58 Jinx |
this is the stuff same is working on, one of the guys that joined the core after the summer of code |
| Mar 16 16:41:19 Jinx |
i'll try to outline the basic concept we have |
| Mar 16 16:41:47 d3vlabs |
rhuk: how long has that been there |
| Mar 16 16:41:50 Jinx |
the idea is to create a system where a user can install extensions directly from the extension site |
| Mar 16 16:41:54 d3vlabs |
i bumped that threat at forums twice |
| Mar 16 16:41:59 d3vlabs |
or |
| Mar 16 16:42:06 d3vlabs |
*oh |
| Mar 16 16:42:06 rhuk |
d3labs.. lets take this to msgs |
| Mar 16 16:42:09 d3vlabs |
remote xml rpc? jinx |
| Mar 16 16:42:16 Jinx |
something like that |
| Mar 16 16:42:29 vibez-lap |
like firefox extensions? |
| Mar 16 16:42:44 Jinx |
a user would get an overview of the extension on the extension site and can install them, by just clicking it |
| Mar 16 16:42:46 Jinx |
indeed |
| Mar 16 16:42:54 vibez-lap |
sweet! |
| Mar 16 16:42:56 Jinx |
now, this asks for quite some magic |
| Mar 16 16:42:59 Vimes539 |
Ambitious |
| Mar 16 16:43:03 flg |
surfing from the joomla install? |
| Mar 16 16:43:13 Jinx |
*flg indeed |
| Mar 16 16:43:16 michiel1981 |
I feel sorry for the server hosting those extensions :) |
| Mar 16 16:43:21 vibez-lap |
lol |
| Mar 16 16:43:24 Jinx |
hehe, the forge is hosting them |
| Mar 16 16:43:30 Jinx |
the part two of the story |
| Mar 16 16:43:34 Jinx |
*that's |
| Mar 16 16:43:45 michiel1981 |
can it handle such load increase? |
| Mar 16 16:43:45 [1]Laurens |
maybe not a question directly to the core-team, but also to the community: I'm currently working on J!Explorer (a xml-rpc application to administer the content of your website) and it has already some basic functionality like adding, editing and deleting content. Now my question: which features would you like see in the near future? |
| Mar 16 16:43:52 Beatb |
ok. thanks. Please think not only install, but also "keep-up-to-date" ;) . |
| Mar 16 16:44:03 Jinx |
*laurens i'll take that in a min |
| Mar 16 16:44:07 Peteeeee |
what tables are added to when a joomla user is created? |
| Mar 16 16:44:12 Jinx |
first finihing my story |
| Mar 16 16:44:13 vibez-lap |
looks like the big mambo/joomla devide will atlast take place with 1.1 |
| Mar 16 16:44:21 [1]Laurens |
sure, no problem :) |
| Mar 16 16:44:22 Schlu |
laurens: image manager |
| Mar 16 16:44:31 d3vlabs |
[1]Laurens: saw your stuff on jforge. CHMOD option is a must |
| Mar 16 16:44:56 Hackwar |
Peteeeee: #__users, #__core_acl_aro, #__core_acl_groups_aro_map |
| Mar 16 16:44:59 d3vlabs |
i would look at joomlaxplorer, some ftp client, cpanel file mangaer and ftp client, then see waht features can be implmeneted via php |
| Mar 16 16:45:02 d3vlabs |
but chmod is a must |
| Mar 16 16:45:16 flg |
d3v pls PM him or after |
| Mar 16 16:45:23 rhuk |
guys let jinx finish |
| Mar 16 16:45:23 Jinx |
yep |
| Mar 16 16:45:26 Jinx |
thnx |
| Mar 16 16:45:32 d3vlabs |
notice flg what time the meeting starts |
| Mar 16 16:45:32 Peteeeee |
ah thanks Hackwar, i was missing one before and the users didnt show up in the user admin |
| Mar 16 16:45:34 d3vlabs |
err |
| Mar 16 16:45:46 flg |
did |
| Mar 16 16:45:59 Jinx |
so ? we done ? |
| Mar 16 16:46:12 d3vlabs |
we just got started |
| Mar 16 16:46:24 Jinx |
oke, so i was saying part 2 is to make the extension site talk to the forge |
| Mar 16 16:46:33 Peteeeee |
the password is hashed using md5 in the user db yes? |
| Mar 16 16:47:06 Predator |
Peteeeee: can you wait? |
| Mar 16 16:47:32 vibez-lap |
one question at a time please guys |
| Mar 16 16:47:47 d3vlabs |
lol just +m the channel during the answer |
| Mar 16 16:48:00 Jinx |
in short, u will be able to auto-install and auto-update extensions |
| Mar 16 16:48:16 vibez-lap |
that sounds great |
| Mar 16 16:48:23 dtaib |
yes that'll be really good |
| Mar 16 16:48:24 Jinx |
next one |
| Mar 16 16:48:24 flg |
:) |
| Mar 16 16:48:35 halk |
Whats about certificats to sign qualitative and valid extensions |
| Mar 16 16:48:48 Hackwar |
Peteeeee: shortly: yes, 1.1 will provide more methods for hashing than md5 |
| Mar 16 16:49:33 Jinx |
*halk : no ideas there yet |
| Mar 16 16:49:45 junkie |
yes and pgp signing etc to prevent man in the middle attacks |
| Mar 16 16:49:47 flg |
i dont think certs are needed |
| Mar 16 16:49:52 vibez-lap |
are there any plans to add more user group permission controls in 1.1 |
| Mar 16 16:50:11 Jinx |
any of the devs wanna take that ? |
| Mar 16 16:50:28 webImagery |
i guess i will |
| Mar 16 16:50:39 webImagery |
The short answer is no |
| Mar 16 16:50:48 webImagery |
I worked with Hackwar a bit on this |
| Mar 16 16:50:59 webImagery |
and have created a development branch name JACL |
| Mar 16 16:51:38 webImagery |
this is where we will be working on this implementation... implementation will break a considerable amount of things as we move access checks to using ACL |
| Mar 16 16:51:50 flg |
wouldnt it be an idea to have byostech.com's jacl thighter integrated? like joom-/mambelfish? |
| Mar 16 16:52:22 webImagery |
Well, the answer to that is i'm not sure |
| Mar 16 16:52:34 webImagery |
I do know that we are going to implement phpGACL |
| Mar 16 16:52:47 webImagery |
so that we don't have basic role based permissions, but inheritable permissions |
| Mar 16 16:52:53 webImagery |
ultimately this is a better model |
| Mar 16 16:52:58 webImagery |
cumulative |
| Mar 16 16:53:01 flg |
ah much better, ic.. thanks ;) |
| Mar 16 16:53:15 Jinx |
next qn :) |
| Mar 16 16:53:19 flg |
i wonder if it's planned to include a dynamic image generator like typo3 has? this is a very nice feautre rarely seen (eg. just the nice feature this brings to rendering menu gfx's) |
| Mar 16 16:53:34 jMCg |
Hmm.. maybe I should now try again: |
| Mar 16 16:53:36 jMCg |
Hmm... how do I create submenus? |
| Mar 16 16:53:37 flg |
gfx=graphics |
| Mar 16 16:53:47 rhuk |
fig |
| Mar 16 16:54:11 rhuk |
that probably has quite high sys requirements |
| Mar 16 16:54:13 rhuk |
ie, gd2 |
| Mar 16 16:54:14 Jinx |
Andy u wanna take that one ? |
| Mar 16 16:54:21 rhuk |
i've not looked into it extensively |
| Mar 16 16:54:33 rhuk |
but have done somethings like that in the past to use php + ttf fonts to create headers |
| Mar 16 16:54:36 rhuk |
and cache the output |
| Mar 16 16:54:40 rhuk |
probalby something best left to the templates |
| Mar 16 16:54:50 rhuk |
as it can be done via javascript and php in the template |
| Mar 16 16:55:05 rhuk |
i've dont that also.. works fine even today |
| Mar 16 16:55:08 rhuk |
in 1.0.x |
| Mar 16 16:55:30 Jinx |
we don't think this is something that should be part of the core code, u could easily create a component and module to create such features |
| Mar 16 16:55:36 webImagery |
or a plugin |
| Mar 16 16:55:40 Jinx |
indeed |
| Mar 16 16:55:42 flg |
i dont think so, freetype and imagemagick, with caching (create and cache as file) so u got the process only once. u do that everytime when implemented in javascript.. ? |
| Mar 16 16:55:50 flg |
ic, good idea ;) |
| Mar 16 16:55:56 Schlu |
when will be the basic work in 1.1 done? moshtml will be rewritten, when will that stops? |
| Mar 16 16:56:25 Jinx |
we are currently working very hard to get it ready |
| Mar 16 16:56:37 Jinx |
the to do list is slowly shrinking |
| Mar 16 16:57:01 Jinx |
goal is to have the beta ready at the end of the month |
| Mar 16 16:57:18 Jinx |
before the Boston PHP expo |
| Mar 16 16:57:26 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
When will the inevitable happen, that being mambo components/modules becoming incompatible with joomla which would be the official fork in the road? At some point it seems that people will be left to stay at a certain version to keep and maintain what they have but if they want any further updates they will have to upgrade to the new joomla architecture creating a seperation point? |
| Mar 16 16:57:58 Jinx |
anyone who want's to take this one ? |
| Mar 16 16:58:12 webImagery |
i'll comment |
| Mar 16 16:58:17 webImagery |
though i don't know that there is a solid answer |
| Mar 16 16:58:28 webImagery |
In some respects 1.1 is that point |
| Mar 16 16:58:43 webImagery |
we are providing a very large amount of backward compatability |
| Mar 16 16:58:57 webImagery |
but it comes along with mambo's 4.6 release |
| Mar 16 16:59:18 webImagery |
which being the first minor releases from each camp represents a move in their own direction |
| Mar 16 16:59:27 webImagery |
with truly separate API and architectures |
| Mar 16 17:00:08 webImagery |
I think for the most part... 1.1 is backward compatable |
| Mar 16 17:00:15 webImagery |
but anything after this will be complete separation |
| Mar 16 17:00:28 flg |
u think its possible to make a legacy system for mos4.6 stuff to work still? |
| Mar 16 17:00:30 Predator |
so we want to force the 3PD's to use the new API which are more powerfull, but to gave enough time 1.1 is backward compatible |
| Mar 16 17:01:07 webImagery |
flg, anything is possible but you have to make sure the juice is worth the squeeze |
| Mar 16 17:01:31 Jinx |
I haven't really looked at the 4.6 codebase and changes they made, could be possible |
| Mar 16 17:01:37 flg |
yip ;) ugly mos :/ |
| Mar 16 17:01:43 d3vlabs |
i actually think that the core team gave their old product too much of respect by providing backward compatibility... |
| Mar 16 17:01:52 rhuk |
from what i've seen so far, even the templating stuff in mambo 4.6 is not backwards compatible, so I think the backwards compatibility between mambo and joomla has already been broken |
| Mar 16 17:02:00 flg |
just time to drop imho |
| Mar 16 17:02:09 Jinx |
oke next question ? |
| Mar 16 17:02:09 d3vlabs |
are the questions limited to 1.1? |
| Mar 16 17:02:18 Jinx |
yep |
| Mar 16 17:02:37 d3vlabs |
coo..how do you guys feel about the AJAX buzz |
| Mar 16 17:02:47 d3vlabs |
and the requests on forums to do something for the backend using its technology |
| Mar 16 17:02:57 rhuk |
we love ajax! |
| Mar 16 17:03:15 d3vlabs |
weirdo |
| Mar 16 17:03:23 Jinx |
read all about it here : http://dev.joomla.org/index.php?option=com_jd-wiki&Itemid=31&id=faq:ajax |
| Mar 16 17:03:26 rhuk |
but ajax is one of those things where you hae to fill a need, you can't use it for the sake of it |
| Mar 16 17:03:43 Jinx |
we are currently already using AJAX |
| Mar 16 17:03:50 Jinx |
we just didn't call it that |
| Mar 16 17:04:06 Jinx |
TinyMCE is AJAX or better DHTML, dynamic html |
| Mar 16 17:04:40 Jinx |
the new installation uses AJAX and so will the new admin template, all in small amounts |
| Mar 16 17:04:56 rhuk |
the key thing here, is we use it where appropriate |
| Mar 16 17:04:58 d3vlabs |
yeah thats what kinda phil taylor said (who il agree with for once), use it where its needed not where it looks good....fork question then...what 3dp scripts can we expect to have ajax (or whatever u guys call it) |
| Mar 16 17:05:06 d3vlabs |
since jinx is here, docman possibility? |
| Mar 16 17:05:20 Vimes539 |
Jombok already uses ajax |
| Mar 16 17:05:26 Jinx |
docman 2.0 will have it |
| Mar 16 17:05:27 Schlu |
Will be the new admin template the default one? its great but limited space for components :) |
| Mar 16 17:05:28 d3vlabs |
same q to predator for vbridge/wiki/ and rhuk for templates |
| Mar 16 17:05:49 Jinx |
Andy u wanna take that ? |
| Mar 16 17:05:51 rhuk |
really not much need or use for ajax in templates |
| Mar 16 17:05:55 rhuk |
i have this question all the time |
| Mar 16 17:06:00 rhuk |
and i alway say, like what? |
| Mar 16 17:06:07 Predator |
jd-wordpress allready use a lot AJAX |
| Mar 16 17:06:16 rhuk |
i've not heard one compelling feature a pure temlate could provide with ajax |
| Mar 16 17:06:25 rhuk |
dhtml/css/javascript sure |
| Mar 16 17:06:37 rhuk |
but ajax? ajax is remote async xml |
| Mar 16 17:06:46 rhuk |
i think people are caught up with the buzz word |
| Mar 16 17:07:13 Jinx |
Andy u also wanna comment on Schlu's question ? |
| Mar 16 17:07:21 rhuk |
ah |
| Mar 16 17:07:23 rhuk |
sorry missed that |
| Mar 16 17:07:30 rhuk |
ok.. the 1.1 admin template |
| Mar 16 17:07:31 rhuk |
heh |
| Mar 16 17:07:50 rhuk |
well.. it was as much an excercise in feasibility as anything else |
| Mar 16 17:08:02 rhuk |
we are constantly looking for ways to improve usability |
| Mar 16 17:08:20 rhuk |
and i as well as many others have had issues with the constant mousing down dropdown menus |
| Mar 16 17:08:39 rhuk |
anyway, the template was a proof of concept to see if this workflow could be optimized with a split menu type system |
| Mar 16 17:08:43 rhuk |
so once in a particular component |
| Mar 16 17:09:00 rhuk |
the specific features would be available to you quickly without having to mouse throught the whole menu again |
| Mar 16 17:09:05 rhuk |
i think this was a success |
| Mar 16 17:09:17 rhuk |
but the problem is that we don't have a good solution for 3pd who need more navigatino |
| Mar 16 17:09:26 rhuk |
right now apps like phil-a-form or mosets tree |
| Mar 16 17:09:30 rhuk |
have their own left nav |
| Mar 16 17:09:35 rhuk |
to fill this need |
| Mar 16 17:09:41 rhuk |
so until we can properly address this |
| Mar 16 17:09:49 rhuk |
by providing a fully pluggable left tree nav |
| Mar 16 17:10:04 rhuk |
we're going to change back to a horizontal menu like we've always had, but optimize it somewhat |
| Mar 16 17:10:10 rhuk |
to minimize the clicks |
| Mar 16 17:10:13 rhuk |
in a future version |
| Mar 16 17:10:30 rhuk |
we'll deal with it |
| Mar 16 17:10:36 Hackwar |
How is performance supposed to be in Joomla 1.1? Has anybody tested improvements in comparison to 1.0? |
| Mar 16 17:10:39 Jinx |
oke nice answer |
| Mar 16 17:10:53 rhuk |
louis can give a good answer on this |
| Mar 16 17:10:56 Jinx |
indeed |
| Mar 16 17:10:58 rhuk |
:) especially regarding com_contnet |
| Mar 16 17:11:01 webImagery |
lol |
| Mar 16 17:11:02 Jinx |
hehe |
| Mar 16 17:11:14 webImagery |
ok.... we are in the process of refactoring some core components |
| Mar 16 17:11:27 webImagery |
obviously we have a more performance-aware API now |
| Mar 16 17:11:32 webImagery |
using singleton patterns all over the place |
| Mar 16 17:11:34 webImagery |
but... |
| Mar 16 17:11:39 webImagery |
i can give you some concrete examples |
| Mar 16 17:12:09 webImagery |
over the last couple of days i have reworked com_content to use a more sane control flow |
| Mar 16 17:12:27 webImagery |
also in doing this i have separated logic from presentation as much as can be done without pattemplate |
| Mar 16 17:13:00 webImagery |
in some basic tests.... a frontpage load had around 70 queries to the db with J1.0 |
| Mar 16 17:13:05 webImagery |
probably around 50 with caching |
| Mar 16 17:13:33 webImagery |
testing my changes yesterday and today with 1.1 has shown that with caching off i can get queries down to around 20 for the frontpage |
| Mar 16 17:13:40 webImagery |
and witih caching on closer to 15 |
| Mar 16 17:13:53 webImagery |
some content pages had query numbers as low as 8 for the entire page load |
| Mar 16 17:13:54 webImagery |
:) |
| Mar 16 17:14:04 webImagery |
so we have made some improvements |
| Mar 16 17:14:13 Hackwar |
thats really a drastic reduction. |
| Mar 16 17:14:17 JoomlaRadio |
Little question inbetween will there be a conclusion of this chat be postet somewhere? - I was so late in |
| Mar 16 17:14:18 Jinx |
huge improvements ! |
| Mar 16 17:14:20 halk |
great |
| Mar 16 17:14:26 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
Just wondering if you guys were able to develop or work on a core feature such as JoomlaXplorer which at some points is the only way to get rid of files stored on the server that are not owned by us the user? Sometimes when I want to totally get rid of a component or delete my joomla install I have to do it through this component or I get permission errors. |
| Mar 16 17:14:42 Jinx |
*JoomlaRadio : yes |
| Mar 16 17:15:10 rhuk |
perhaps louis can explain the new ftp layer? |
| Mar 16 17:15:21 webImagery |
lol |
| Mar 16 17:15:33 rhuk |
heh |
| Mar 16 17:15:36 webImagery |
well... the idea is this: |
| Mar 16 17:16:08 webImagery |
when you install joomla now you are given the ability to feed the install script an ftp account and have it work out the relative path from the FTP users filesystem root to the Joomla install filesystem root |
| Mar 16 17:16:15 webImagery |
if this is setup and enabled |
| Mar 16 17:16:20 rhuk |
ajax based btw |
| Mar 16 17:16:44 webImagery |
anytime a part of joomla uses either the JFile or JFolder classes (our filesystem operation classes) |
| Mar 16 17:17:02 webImagery |
the system automatically detects if it needs to use FTP or not to perform the operation |
| Mar 16 17:17:20 webImagery |
in this way we can remedy the problem with safe mode |
| Mar 16 17:17:33 webImagery |
as well as file ownership problems with installing/removing files |
| Mar 16 17:17:46 dtaib |
anyone here knows if at the current state joomfish svn can be integrated manually into the 1.1 svn? |
| Mar 16 17:17:46 d3vlabs |
meant to ask this for a while...what additions from google SOC will make it to 1.1? |
| Mar 16 17:18:24 webImagery |
not it |
| Mar 16 17:18:29 rhuk |
go jinx |
| Mar 16 17:18:32 Jinx |
*d3vlabs : work on the installer is already in there |
| Mar 16 17:19:13 Jinx |
we have't really ported the other work as this was built against the mambo codebase |
| Mar 16 17:19:29 Jinx |
next step will be to refactor it and implement it gradually |
| Mar 16 17:20:06 Jinx |
u can expext versioning and preprocessing, as in dynamically loading AJAX and javascript files in one of the next versions |
| Mar 16 17:20:15 michiel1981 |
which xml-rpc is it going to be? domit, or the new one Jinx added 3 days ago? Will this lib be wrapped into a joomla object or just present as the library to use? |
| Mar 16 17:20:31 Jinx |
it' will be the new one, phpxmlrpc |
| Mar 16 17:20:53 Jinx |
we deprecated the domit lib because it isn't actively maintained any longer |
| Mar 16 17:21:10 Jinx |
this is actaully a very good example of the power of the framework |
| Mar 16 17:21:27 Jinx |
the switch to the new lib was done in 2 days time and went without any problems |
| Mar 16 17:21:36 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
I idel and perform support in this channel and the question I see asked the most deals with multilanguage support. Is the guy behind joomlafish working with you devs so 1.1 supports different languages? |
| Mar 16 17:21:59 Jinx |
that something for David :) |
| Mar 16 17:22:14 rhuk |
well. alex and the fish |
| Mar 16 17:22:39 webImagery |
smart guy :) |
| Mar 16 17:23:12 david_gal |
there is inherent multilanguage support with the move to utf-8 |
| Mar 16 17:23:56 Jinx |
u need to make a distiction between multilingual content and a multilingual core |
| Mar 16 17:24:35 Jinx |
1.1 fully support UTF-8 and the core, meaning the UI can be fully translated, both back and front |
| Mar 16 17:25:07 Jinx |
the multilingual content can be created by using the Fish, Alex is currently working on making the fish compatible with 1.1 |
| Mar 16 17:25:28 spook][68 |
Will there still be tables, such as .contentpaneopen in the core in 1.1? |
| Mar 16 17:25:41 Jinx |
Andy :) |
| Mar 16 17:26:27 Jinx |
seems he is off for a moment, i'll answer |
| Mar 16 17:26:30 rhuk |
sorry |
| Mar 16 17:26:31 rhuk |
back |
| Mar 16 17:26:32 Jinx |
yes there will be |
| Mar 16 17:26:37 Jinx |
go ahead |
| Mar 16 17:26:46 rhuk |
ok, 1.1 rendering will stay the same |
| Mar 16 17:26:49 rhuk |
as it is in 1.0.X |
| Mar 16 17:26:56 rhuk |
this is purely for backwards compatability |
| Mar 16 17:26:58 rhuk |
however |
| Mar 16 17:27:12 rhuk |
we are moving to a more defined state of seperation between code and presentation layer |
| Mar 16 17:27:33 rhuk |
so we hav the ability to override the default presentation layer (eg content.html.php) |
| Mar 16 17:27:38 rhuk |
and provide our own one in a template |
| Mar 16 17:27:52 rhuk |
what this means is that it will become feasible to have a tableless joomla |
| Mar 16 17:27:56 rhuk |
also |
| Mar 16 17:28:04 rhuk |
heh |
| Mar 16 17:28:17 rhuk |
we will be working with the folks that brought you the 508hack |
| Mar 16 17:28:30 rhuk |
to provide a 1.1 compliant set of rendering temlates |
| Mar 16 17:28:32 rhuk |
templates |
| Mar 16 17:28:57 rhuk |
now when i say templates, i mean layout templates, not ui templates as we traditionally used the term in mambo/joomla land |
| Mar 16 17:29:09 rhuk |
we will start using the term "theme" for what we today call templates |
| Mar 16 17:29:14 rhuk |
ok |
| Mar 16 17:29:15 rhuk |
done |
| Mar 16 17:29:18 Jinx |
oke |
| Mar 16 17:29:19 Beatb |
In terms of backend usability for newbees, or for us making new sites, the unrelated menu structure / content structure is sometimes powerful, but often a real pain to structure, specially for a new site at the beginning. It would be nice to have a "linked" mode in addition of the "unlinked or loosely-linked" current one. Some way to keep the menu and content in sync. E.g. I create a new category and say "linked to menu": J! would create a categ |
| Mar 16 17:29:27 spook][68 |
thx :) |
| Mar 16 17:29:52 Jinx |
i'll take that one |
| Mar 16 17:30:27 Jinx |
that would be indeed the better approach and we will slowly move towards such a concept with the introduction of an NBS, node based scheme in the next version |
| Mar 16 17:30:45 Jinx |
doing such a change now would create major breakages |
| Mar 16 17:31:16 Jinx |
however as Andy already said we are trying to improve usability to make things more intuitive for 1.1 |
| Mar 16 17:32:01 Jinx |
any other questions ? |
| Mar 16 17:32:04 d3vlabs |
yeah |
| Mar 16 17:32:12 d3vlabs |
well others need to go first |
| Mar 16 17:32:46 d3vlabs |
aight then |
| Mar 16 17:32:47 Jinx |
indeed, some one who hasn't been able to pose his question ? |
| Mar 16 17:33:06 d3vlabs |
hmm aight |
| Mar 16 17:33:08 d3vlabs |
aight a bit off topic... #mambo and then #joomla has been on freenode for at least 2 years, providing free support in the time of need and pointing countless # of visitors into the right direction. idigital (damian caynes), viksit, and some other guys been here for the longest time, d3vlabs was here for about a year provoding almost daily support when he had the patience...how about making this channel more official? lets say give a direct link from the f |
| Mar 16 17:33:41 Jinx |
sure we would love too |
| Mar 16 17:34:10 Jinx |
i already proposed to make things more official to damian and he said u guys wanted to keep things more semi-official |
| Mar 16 17:34:29 d3vlabs |
the thing is |
| Mar 16 17:34:40 Jinx |
the channel is mentioned on the forums and on the developer portal |
| Mar 16 17:34:46 d3vlabs |
i might not be here in a while and he has another project coming up |
| Mar 16 17:34:54 Jinx |
the minutes of these meeting will go here : http://dev.joomla.org/content/view/1138/81/ |
| Mar 16 17:34:56 d3vlabs |
which might take away his focus from here completely |
| Mar 16 17:35:08 Jinx |
TRUE |
| Mar 16 17:35:20 d3vlabs |
basically if u got a live chat like that, u got more people, thus more experts when it comes to support |
| Mar 16 17:35:28 Jinx |
let us know how we can help to make it more official and we can see how we go :) |
| Mar 16 17:35:46 Jinx |
for now, next question :) |
| Mar 16 17:35:48 Matjong |
perhaps i might add that it was not easy for me to find this channel, i found it by accident... things might have become better now with links on dev portal etc. though |
| Mar 16 17:35:49 d3vlabs |
just need a link fonrt page and one sticky thread...maybe a news post |
| Mar 16 17:35:50 d3vlabs |
haha aight |
| Mar 16 17:35:51 Matjong |
ok Jinx |
| Mar 16 17:35:52 flg |
then go ahead, it would be interesting to see how big the community/site count is (?) i not like semi, joomla as its name |
| Mar 16 17:35:53 Matjong |
:p |
| Mar 16 17:36:09 Hackwar |
with all these big changes, do you really think it is only a minor version number increase? |
| Mar 16 17:36:16 flg |
missing link map.. :( |
| Mar 16 17:36:36 rhuk |
perhaps we can put a java based irc client somwhere jinx |
| Mar 16 17:36:36 Jinx |
i'll answer Hackwar first |
| Mar 16 17:36:44 Jinx |
yep we could do that |
| Mar 16 17:37:23 Jinx |
need to fit it in on the todo list unless some of the community members want to take charge of it |
| Mar 16 17:37:52 d3vlabs |
rhuk: pjirc has a an awesome mod by oldeismann from smf which will take user names from forums |
| Mar 16 17:38:03 Jinx |
let me answer hackware's question also since this is an important one and we have an announcement to make |
| Mar 16 17:38:40 Jinx |
the next version will not be called 1.1 but we are bumping the version number to 1.5, as we feel the work done, is much more then a simple minor version increase |
| Mar 16 17:38:51 Jinx |
u guys get the scoop :) |
| Mar 16 17:39:08 Jinx |
an official announcement is due soon |
| Mar 16 17:39:11 rhuk |
we love firefox so much we're following their numbering scheme :) |
| Mar 16 17:39:21 Jinx |
that also ;) |
| Mar 16 17:39:30 flg |
lol |
| Mar 16 17:39:31 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
Forums are the second biggest question asked. Which one is the best and easiest for integration. Will there ever be a time when a joomla package is released with an integrated forum that doesn’t run the risk of breaking with every updated? |
| Mar 16 17:39:38 d3vlabs |
dude |
| Mar 16 17:39:39 d3vlabs |
smf |
| Mar 16 17:39:45 d3vlabs |
talk to me after meeting :X |
| Mar 16 17:39:46 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
oops lol |
| Mar 16 17:39:53 d3vlabs |
smf and joomla are best friends |
| Mar 16 17:40:01 Jinx |
bareviews, what u want to know ? |
| Mar 16 17:40:44 BAReviews |
We need a good discography component. The two that are avaiable, Artist Avenue, Artist Directory are very old projects and they're buggy. |
| Mar 16 17:41:14 Jinx |
create your own :) |
| Mar 16 17:41:23 d3vlabs |
try external script for right now. jinzora for example, freshmeat.net is your friend |
| Mar 16 17:42:25 halk |
How would you like to act with betas, alphas etc. Other software uses the RC and Final way. |
| Mar 16 17:42:26 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
With this new text editor, will it be able to handle javascript code, as TinyMCE likes to strip Javascript from my content currently. |
| Mar 16 17:42:42 d3vlabs |
TCHQ0wn4g3: JCE was released about a week ago |
| Mar 16 17:43:21 Jinx |
oke |
| Mar 16 17:43:26 Jinx |
who was first :) |
| Mar 16 17:43:34 [1]chief |
hi all |
| Mar 16 17:43:53 Jinx |
*halk : we are going from alph to beta 1 and will probably have a beta 2 |
| Mar 16 17:44:16 Jinx |
a decision about going to RC hasn't been made yet but probably have one or two RC also |
| Mar 16 17:44:53 Jinx |
*TCHQ0wn4g3 : the editor is fulle xhtml compilant, it can handle js |
| Mar 16 17:45:15 Schlu |
Will be for 1.1 more changes in acl like group_id -> id? |
| Mar 16 17:45:25 Hackwar |
no |
| Mar 16 17:45:37 ScaryFast |
some editors strip out all sorts of information which is really annoying. I have to disable the wysiwyg editor every time I make a change to the front page of 1 site, otherwise it strips out a single piece of code which causes my vertical menu to appear under a shockwave slideshow. wmode="transparent" is what it removes I definately look forward to any editor that doesn't do that :P |
| Mar 16 17:45:39 Hackwar |
not really |
| Mar 16 17:46:11 Jinx |
well |
| Mar 16 17:46:13 Schlu |
thanks |
| Mar 16 17:46:16 Hackwar |
there is a difference that the acl->acl_check will be wrapped by the function authorize in the class $user |
| Mar 16 17:46:31 d3vlabs |
for those of you guys having issues with wysiwyg editors...the guy who made mosCE...the most featured editor at the time, updated it and forked to joomla...u can find it here: http://www.jcebot.com |
| Mar 16 17:47:13 Jinx |
i also want to add to that, if u don't want to use a onsite editor, u can use a blogger tool in 1.5 |
| Mar 16 17:47:37 Jinx |
currently we support the Blogger API and are working on supporting the Metawebblog API |
| Mar 16 17:48:16 Jinx |
we are also working on a client java app called J!Explorer that u can use to manage all your content |
| Mar 16 17:48:35 Jinx |
more info can be found on my blog : http://dev.joomla.org/component/option,com_jd-wp/Itemid,33/p,47/ |
| Mar 16 17:48:44 Jinx |
time for final questions ? |
| Mar 16 17:48:55 Vimes539 |
You want fries with that? |
| Mar 16 17:49:00 d3vlabs |
hmm yeah |
| Mar 16 17:49:05 Hackwar |
lol |
| Mar 16 17:49:06 d3vlabs |
how about 5 minutes for non 1.1.x questions |
| Mar 16 17:49:08 d3vlabs |
no support |
| Mar 16 17:49:11 d3vlabs |
just queries |
| Mar 16 17:49:13 Jinx |
oke |
| Mar 16 17:49:22 Jinx |
go ahead we can finish with that |
| Mar 16 17:49:36 d3vlabs |
Predator: eta for opensef rc5? killing us with 1.0.8 incompatibility |
| Mar 16 17:49:37 d3vlabs |
:X |
| Mar 16 17:50:04 flg |
what does google SOC mean? |
| Mar 16 17:50:14 Schlu |
summer of code |
| Mar 16 17:50:29 flg |
when is 1.1? |
| Mar 16 17:50:36 Hackwar |
SOC = summer of code = project for students to work with big OS groups like Joomla etc |
| Mar 16 17:50:51 flg |
aight |
| Mar 16 17:50:54 flg |
a buzz, lbnl last but not least :D |
| Mar 16 17:51:01 Jinx |
1.1 beta is due at the end of march |
| Mar 16 17:51:18 d3vlabs |
ahaha |
| Mar 16 17:51:22 flg |
;) u said imho ;) rofl |
| Mar 16 17:51:23 Predator |
d3vlabs: only contact issue is know and pagination reintroduce so where is 1.0.8 incompatibilty? |
| Mar 16 17:51:47 d3vlabs |
Predator: u actualyl replied to my thread noticing it |
| Mar 16 17:51:59 junkie |
Jinx -> but is 1.5 no right? |
| Mar 16 17:52:03 d3vlabs |
pagination can fixed with old htaccess and contact_us can fixed with /feedback or something |
| Mar 16 17:52:04 Predator |
d3vlabs: New eta for OpenSEF is in 2 weeks |
| Mar 16 17:52:07 junkie |
#now |
| Mar 16 17:52:08 d3vlabs |
aight thanks |
| Mar 16 17:52:26 Predator |
d3vlabs: pagination is fixed contact also |
| Mar 16 17:52:27 flg |
open for core devs? help/ideas? contact? |
| Mar 16 17:52:31 Jinx |
*junkie yeah sorry 1.5 |
| Mar 16 17:52:35 michiel1981 |
predator: can you help making gallery 2 bridge compatible with opensef? |
| Mar 16 17:52:37 Hackwar |
junkie: you're right, did sink in allready |
| Mar 16 17:52:39 Jinx |
still need to get used to that |
| Mar 16 17:52:47 d3vlabs |
Predator: il keep the issues to opensef forums where it belongs. just thought id ask |
| Mar 16 17:53:14 d3vlabs |
oh yeah |
| Mar 16 17:53:25 d3vlabs |
for those who dont know, there wouldnt be a g2 bridge without michiel1981 |
| Mar 16 17:53:30 d3vlabs |
props |
| Mar 16 17:53:33 Predator |
d3vlabs: no prob ;) |
| Mar 16 17:53:47 Vimes539 |
Who do I contact to gain access to joomla svn? Getting 403 errors. |
| Mar 16 17:53:49 Predator |
michiel1981: why not |
| Mar 16 17:54:42 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
Would just like to extend a big thanks to the devs for coming in here and having this Q and A session. I enjoyed it and now I have some more information to share with those that come into the channel. Feels good that those at the top of the ladder acknowledge our existence. Heres to 1.1 |
| Mar 16 17:54:45 michiel1981 |
d3vlabs: gallery release coming next week and finally i'll get those questions about paths out the door, in comes user friendly config/install |
| Mar 16 17:55:09 Hackwar |
TCHQ0wn4g3: 1.5 ;-) |
| Mar 16 17:55:15 d3vlabs |
nice, hit me up about beta testing |
| Mar 16 17:55:16 michiel1981 |
predator: email? |
| Mar 16 17:55:17 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
1.5 woops |
| Mar 16 17:55:24 d3vlabs |
dude |
| Mar 16 17:55:25 d3vlabs |
1.5 |
| Mar 16 17:55:28 d3vlabs |
like firefox |
| Mar 16 17:55:31 d3vlabs |
not slike smf |
| Mar 16 17:55:32 d3vlabs |
1.5 |
| Mar 16 17:55:53 Jinx |
thanks guys happy to be here |
| Mar 16 17:55:57 d3vlabs |
oh yeah |
| Mar 16 17:56:01 d3vlabs |
time for some darkness |
| Mar 16 17:56:03 Jinx |
should we make this an frequent event ? |
| Mar 16 17:56:06 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
Just quick question, is your road map a rough estimate usually updated when needed? |
| Mar 16 17:56:07 michiel1981 |
yes |
| Mar 16 17:56:09 TCHQ0wn4g3 |
yes! |
| Mar 16 17:56:15 vibez-lap |
Jinx yes! |
| Mar 16 17:56:16 Schlu |
yep |
